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Rek Seven
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Posted - 2013.07.30 09:37:00 -
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These new changes seem a bit more reasonable but i think the Ishtar needs a bit more work.
Maybe CCP want to force the ishtar into a shield role but i'd prefer it to be an armour tanker just like all the other Gallente ships. For that to happen, it need drone damage and hitpoint bonuses not tracking. The pilot can then use its low slots for tank and its med slots for drone tracking/range/speed.
Also has anyone calculated how OP the sacrilege will be now? Putting work in since 2010. |
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Posted - 2013.08.02 15:06:00 -
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Meh, most of these changes don't go far enough and i'd consider some of these changes to result in a worse ship that the round 1 proposals. Not interested in reading your crappy "fixes" anyone ccp but good luck o/ Putting work in since 2010. |
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Posted - 2013.08.02 19:29:00 -
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CCP Rise wrote: Vagabond: I'm still fairly confused about how there is so much resistance on this ship design. The complaints range quite a bit but I think the most legitimate one is that the Vaga struggles to project damage compared to its competition (Deimos/Cerberus mostly). I think you have to accept that the Vaga has huge advantages in some other areas that should easily outweigh its slightly lower damage projection. Compared to Cerberus for instance, you have an enormous speed advantage, a utility high, and significantly lower Signature. How valuable you think these things are will vary of course, but you can't expect the Vaga to push damage out as well or it simply becomes better in all cases.
Maybe you should give us some numbers instead of leaving if for us to deconstruct. People need to see a typical fit so they can see things like the dps, range, speed and tank before they can give you any meaningful feedback... so show us a typical fit
I think the problem is that you may be suffering from eft warrior syndrome with a lot of the HACs. A vaga is not a braying ship so it stands to reason that it needs to be able to project it's damage at kiting range. Given that fact, who cares about a utility high (used for neuts in most cases) when you are in a kiting ship? Putting work in since 2010. |
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Posted - 2013.08.02 20:16:00 -
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Give all HACs an AB speed bonus and the majority of people will be happy and the ships will be specialized/unique. Putting work in since 2010. |
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Posted - 2013.08.02 21:04:00 -
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Omnathious Deninard wrote:Harvey James wrote:MeBiatch wrote:Harvey James wrote:MeBiatch wrote:if you upped the falloff on the vega to 12.5% per level that would fix the "range" issues people are having with the ship.
so that would end up being an extra 62.5% increase to falloff crs 50% that we see now. its not much but it should make the difference. The main issue with the vaga is that you can't even fit 425's which costs it 9km range and some dps ok so how much pg is it short on? you have EFT/EVE HQ don't you ? Vega starts with 855MW of power grid with skills it is 1068.75 425mm autocannon II uses 154MW of power grid with skills 138.6 Vega has 5 turret hard points meaning power grid usage for T2 425mm autocannons is 693. I see plenty of grid left.
yeah, plenty of grid to fit one MWD and nothing else...
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Posted - 2013.08.06 15:10:00 -
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Damar Auscent wrote:Can only really reply for Ishtar as it's the only 1 I've used. Am a little underwhelmed with the lack of bonus for light/medium drones considering this is meant to be a drone boat. It would be like, for example, taking the vagas bonus for damage and saying that's only for autocannons, doesn't make much sense. It would make more sense to have all drone bonus to tracking and optimal range and for those that need/want to use heavies can fit a nav computer to boost the speed.
Sorry if this has already been covered but gave up reading after page 20
Agreed.
The turret/missile boats with be able to engage any target they want but with the restrictions being put on to the ishtar, it's like ccp doesn't want it to hit anything smaller than a BC.
I'm not sure how fast the heavy drones will go but i doubt they will be able to keep up with fast moving targets and apply their damage. Putting work in since 2010. |
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Posted - 2013.08.07 18:43:00 -
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Phaade wrote:Why not include an additional role bonus: 50% to Afterburner speed.
Give HACS much needed flexibility, and I like the bonus for MWD's, but wheres the active tanking love?
THIS Putting work in since 2010. |
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